HireHealth.net – WARNING: a Parasitic Job Board

Comment by Lee Marc on May 2, 2012 at 2:10pm

I have had an equally bad experience with Jay Tokarz.

I generally subscribe to the belief that if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.  However, this is a rare exception.

Based on my personal experience, and accounts from many others who claimed to be taken by him in one way or another, I would characterize Jay Tokarz as a con man, thief and pathological liar. I woud caution  anyone considering working with him to do their homework first, and tread lightly.

As for our experience.....

He basically hired contractors to copy every page of our ResumeRabbit.com website (without paying any of them as far as I was able to tell).    Then he contacted all our largest partners and told them we were licensing the technology from him (completely untrue) and why don't they just deal with him directly. 

He additionally tried to sell competitive versions of our site on ebay.  I was contacted by someone who paid him $8000.00 to buy a site competitive to ours, and reported that he never received value for the money, and wanted to work with us.  Jay actually went to elance and got contractors to do spec work for free, on different skins of basically our site, then told the buyer that he was having is "graphic design" team develop the work.  The contractors (as far as I could tell, and was reported to me, were never paid).  This fellow showed me the ebay listing, where Jay blatantly said that the site did exactly what ResumeRabbit did, and you could do it too for $8000 deposited into Jay's account.

He hired another contractor to try to reverse engineer our back end processes,  which didn't work by the way.... (I know because I ultimately bought that software from the contractor, who Jay didn't pay either).  There's a reason it took us almost 2 years to develop the first working release of our back end, and understandably $800 to an elance programmer in the Ukraine, probably won't cut it.

We ultimately filed a lawsuit against Jay and his entities, and prevailed. See the lawsuit and injunction here

We were subsequently contacted by an endless array of resume writers, website developers, programmers and others who reported being scammed, taken or lied to by Jay Tokarz.

He used several aliases (which we found through research and legal discovery he consistently used).  We also learned through discovery that he had a consistent pattern of not paying people. 

Our experience with him happened right around 9/11.  His website had pictures of offices throughout the country, including the twin towers in New York (which I highly doubt he had offices in, if he did we couldn't find any proof of it, just an executive suite that he wasn't a tenant of).

In discovery we received emails Jay (or Alex or whatever name he was using) sent to others, where the contractors demanded payment, and he first would blame the "accounting department" and comment on how difficult it was to get through all the "red tape" in a company as large as his.

In later requests for payment,  he went on to tell people (after 9/11) he lost his office and staff in the event, and how could they ask him for money at a time like that.

The amount of lies and deceit that we read, experienced, and learned about from others can in my opinion only be characterized as pathological.

Don, I'm sorry this happened to you.

Lee Marc

CEO

eDirect Publishing, Inc.

Comment by Gil Davis on May 2, 2012 at 2:54pm

Don,

Wow! I truly agree that the Online Employment industry does not have a place for anyone engaging in dishonest business relationships with crooked individuals. It's sad to say, but there are still more out there. I was taught by my grandmother to always live your life in a way that you will never have to screen your calls or feel like you are being watched because of the bad choices that you made. 

Thanks Don for putting him and his failed organization on blast,

Gil Davis

CEO/Founder

www.AllJobsinAmerica.com 

www.AllJobsinAmericaNEWS.com

Comment by Todd Goldstein on May 2, 2012 at 3:36pm

buyer beware, I believe this may be the same person and one of the aliases Lee mentions. http://jobboarders.com/forum/topics/seniorjob-net-domain-for-sale

Comment by Jay Tokarz on May 2, 2012 at 4:50pm

Don, like most people, you only shine the light in the direction that best serves you. You forgot to mention a few import points.

1. We executed in a contract in August 2011 and only provided you directly posted jobs.

2. Your staff was notified that the business had been sold in October 2011.

3. Prior to January 2012 monthly invoices were less than $100.

4. In January 2012 you and your staff continued to access a feed from Hirehealth.net that contained indirect job listings and was never meant to be distributed off site. Perhaps you should have looked at the feed and it's contents and or reached out and spoken with someone about the content of the feed as well as the spend. Business owners do not often go from spending $100 a month to over $10,000 a month.

5. Your contract with me was void the moment the business was sold, yet you would like to think I should be responsible for your errors and the benefits of others.

6. You scream from the top of the mountain and it will do little to rectify your errors.

7. Feel free to slander me as much as you want but be careful about what you say about another persons business as you might find yourself on the wrong end of all this.

Now Lee Marc, that is a snake of a different color.

I can summarize by saying that Lee the snake sued me in Federal Court to keep me from launching a business that competed with his. Rather than defend myself in California Federal court I closed the yet to be launched business and moved on. Lee though has some sour grapes as he thought he was going to recoup his frivolous law suit expenses, scam an easy payday in addition to forcing a competitor of of the market space. No expense recouping and no easy payday so he continues to slander me any chance he can.

Good luck and God Bless

Jay Tokarz

Comment by Christopher Davis on May 4, 2012 at 1:53pm

This Jay Tokarz guy from Hirehealth.net is a big con artist. No one should be naive enough to do business with him and/or his 1000 aliases. 

I heard he is trying to relaunch his board now after he was just shut down for not paying his previous provider. 

His 4th point above is a typical con man response, like he didnt know he was getting a ton of traffic from TopUSAJobs. You know what was going on and saw the traffic you were getting. You also knew it costs money to get the traffic. 

I don't believe the business was sold. If so, post the proof on here. Who did you sell it to? Careerbuilder? Jobing? Indeed? IAC?

Why are you still representing HireHealth everywhere? Let me guess, you do such a great job of managing the business they retained you. Come on with the "I sold the business" crap.

From here out, I feel bad for you and your company if you work with HireHealh.net and/or Jay Tokarz. He is a true con man.

Comment by Jay Tokarz on May 4, 2012 at 9:31pm

Chris, nice to meet you, who are you?

I can assure you and anyone who cares that we do not know one another....yet you choose this forum in an attempt to bash me.  Good Luck and God Bless.

Jay Tokarz

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